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News at 6 on WNUR News – November 1, 2021 Talk with Reform CAPS, Squid Game, and Procrastination WNUR News broadcasts live at 6 pm CST on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays on WNUR 89.3 FM
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Speaker 1 00:00:16 Live from w N U R news. I'm Zach McCreary and I'm
Speaker 2 00:00:20 Ali young And I'm Ali Bianco.
Speaker 1 00:00:23 You're listening to the six o'clock news on w N U R 89.3, FM HD one Evanson Chicago it's Monday, November 1st, tonight the reform caps advocate advocacy group sits down with a director of caps,
Speaker 2 00:00:37 A profile on squid games
Speaker 1 00:00:39 And the phenomena of pros, nation,
Speaker 2 00:00:42 All those stories, and more coming up tonight on w N R news at six,
Speaker 1 00:00:52 Happy November, everyone hope you had a happy and safe Halloween. Our top story of the night, the reform caps advocacy group sat down with a director of caps and the Dean of students to share student experiences and discuss their demands. Speaking with the leaders of the reform caps U Instagram Ali Bianco has the story
Speaker 2 00:01:18 Content warning. The following story contains discussion of mental illness for crisis support texts home to 7 4 1 7 4 1.
Speaker 4 00:01:30 I was seen as a liability before I was seen as a human
Speaker 3 00:01:33 Literally face every mental health concern you've ever had
Speaker 4 00:01:36 Threatened to put me on forced medical leave. Instead of trying to help me.
Speaker 3 00:01:40 I told them I felt all alone on the phone with a complete stranger. Maybe you should schedule another phone call. Next week. Caps is incapable of providing any support.
Speaker 2 00:01:52 Last spring, a new page popped up on Instagram with the handle at reform caps and you, the advocacy group started publishing personal testimonies of Northwestern students who felt that Northwestern's counseling and psychological services caps had been unable to help students on campus seven months after the page launched on Monday, October 11th, reform caps sat down with the director of caps and the Dean of students to share student experiences and discuss their demands. Today, I spoke with reform caps leaders, Jenny Bich, Katherine Zung, and Zahab my to talk about their meeting and their next steps. So, one week ago today you had a meeting with the director of caps. How did that get organized
Speaker 4 00:02:45 At the end of spring over summer, we were still continuing to talk a lot about like how we want to go forward as an organization and group on campus cap. And Dean students actually reached out to us before we did, they were willing to open up like an open relationship.
Speaker 2 00:03:00 So you're preparing for this meeting and you make this magazine with these statistics and these student experiences. Why did you decide to put all your information into this magazine?
Speaker 4 00:03:11 I think for me personally, like, um, zines are a great way of just like storytelling. I have a lot of experie with just design and storytelling that context.
Speaker 3 00:03:21 Yeah. I think also there's a political history behind making zines.
Speaker 2 00:03:26 So it's Monday and you're in Scott Hall and you're waiting for the caps director to show up. How do you all feel in the moments just before this meeting?
Speaker 3 00:03:36 I felt ready after we had the forum we made Theen. I was like, I'm ready.
Speaker 4 00:03:42 It was very impactful just being in like being at the meeting. And even before that, just like the fact of like, we're actually gonna somehow like get at least accountability.
Speaker 2 00:03:53 And Jenny, what was their reaction when you gave them the magazine?
Speaker 3 00:03:57 I think they were a little shocked. I think that was at least for me, part of the reason for bringing Theen and for making it, and for having a really concrete culmination of the work that we've been doing was to hand that to them and be like, we're serious.
Speaker 2 00:04:11 And so you have this list of demands that you separat into sections. You have releasing caps, data, releasing policies and procedures, seeing wait times, creating an accountability board and hiring more diverse staff. Did you talk about all of these demands with caps?
Speaker 3 00:04:27 We go into more detail about a few things in our Z, which is wait times, crisis situations and referrals. So we really focused on those three because I think they really flow into each other and they really illustrate a lot of the, kind of the foundation of why I caps is failing to serve students. So that's the fact that students can't get an appointment. I mean, they have to wait right now, you know, two weeks mm-hmm <affirmative> and artificially shortened wait time, because you can't book out past two weeks, students are struggling to even get an initial appointment and then students who are in crisis, the crisis line is unpredictable. Um, their policies are unclear. They're not transparent about what happens when you're in a crisis situation. And they've, as you've seen in student experiences, been very invalidating to students about what constitutes a crisis. There have been students told that they're not in crisis when they feel that they are. Um, and then going into referrals, um, since caps has a short term therapy model, it really relies heavily on outside referrals. And if you look at caps referral database, it's 70% white, which means that it fundamentally cannot serve its students and cannot serve BI students.
Speaker 4 00:05:33 Uh, the feedback that we gave, um, to administration was a lot about like, um, yes, you started like the same day virtual appointments. Now caps has started recently as well as like, um, just this whole thing, like counselors are available for you to talk if you're in a crisis. Well, that is a good initiative. I think it is very important to recognize how crisis line or just like caps has dealt with crisis situation in the past and how students feel impacted by that. And, um, disproportionately by park and marginalized students where it just creates a very, um, different like, um, level of safety checking that they're, um, historically used to.
Speaker 3 00:06:12 I think also it's important to look at the data that they have given us on racist situations. Um, and on our page about crisis situations, we pulled this directly from their annual report from 2017 to 2018, which is the last one that they've published, um, 55% of what they called severe and urgent students were transported to the ER. And Northwestern's number of ER, transports was almost times the national average compared to similarly size schools.
Speaker 2 00:06:40 So by the end of this meeting, you'd set up weekly meetings. You're meeting with them again tomorrow. What are you hoping to see change?
Speaker 3 00:06:46 I think we're first coming at it from this approach of transparency. If we don't know what's going on, we don't know what to fix. Mm-hmm <affirmative> that includes like their data releasing annual reports every year. Those should be coming out. They haven't come out. As Jenny said, since 20 17, 20 18, right. That's unacceptable. I think also on that transparency piece, um, and crisis situations are a good example of why this is so important is making it clear to students, basic information about how to access cap services mm-hmm <affirmative> and what goes on with caps. And a lot of that is making their FAQ page, for example, a lot more accessible to students.
Speaker 4 00:07:25 And I think like some immediate next steps that we have in mind are definitely talking about referrals, why that database is just insufficient, but like immediately we want like student experience form. If a student goes to cap, they should have feedback forms and that should be taken into account.
Speaker 2 00:07:40 So I also wanna ask about project lets, which is the mental health advocacy and resource organization that Katherine and Jenny, you guys have been trying to bring on campus. Um, are you all officially a campus organization what's going on with your application?
Speaker 3 00:07:53 They still have not given us any reply. We were supposed to get a response May 25th, like a yes or no response. And shortly after that we got no response. So I emailed them asking where is our response? And they were like, oh, we need to talk to caps.
Speaker 2 00:08:10 And what would project let's do uniquely that would kind of be like separate it from reform caps.
Speaker 3 00:08:17 Yeah. So we are currently working on support groups and support study spaces, sort of those are coming out next week, actually. Awesome. Um, we are also working on a peer mental health advocacy program. That's common to all chapters of project lets
Speaker 2 00:08:33 If project lets doesn't get approved, what happens then?
Speaker 3 00:08:36 So that is something that's pretty common actually that happens with project LEDs, chapters on campuses. Um, for example, at brown university where it first started, it took them a year and a half to get approved.
Speaker 2 00:08:47 Finally, what's next for reform caps. Do you have other events and forums planned? How do you see the rest of the quarter painting out?
Speaker 3 00:08:54 Um, first of all, working with caps consistently, as we've talked about, um, focusing on transparency for the next month or so, but also keeping up all the other stuff that we do as an advocacy group. One of the things we wanna do in the next couple weeks is paint the rock and that will be publicized when we're gonna do that. Um, another thing we wanna do is, is continue having feedback forums because we really are rooted in student experiences and the three of us, the four of us, however many people are in that meeting. We can't represent Northwestern without really centering those student experiences and hearing their feedback.
Speaker 2 00:09:29 Yeah. And if you could say something to the students that have been contributing reform caps, what would you tell them?
Speaker 3 00:09:37 I think first and foremost, thank you. Thank you for being brave enough to share what you have shared. A lot of the Google farm responses that we get are really in depth and very personal. And we see that and we are really, really working hard to do to those stories. Yes. And represent your stories and your experiences and make real lasting change for students
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Speaker 2 00:13:35 Welcome back to w N R news on 89.3 FM slash HD one Evanston Chicago, it's 6:14 PM central. And we story on squid games, which has become culturally iconic. And for good reason, it's become Netflix's most watch series ever. Here's reporter Izzy pad with the story
Speaker 18 00:13:58 On September 17th, Netflix released squid game. One of its newest south Korean drama series with a dystopian twist. Since it's debut, the show has captured the attention of well over 100 million viewers, worldwide ranking number one in over 90 countries across the globe. Viewership only continues to grow as a world, remains captivated by main character Gion and as fellow players, as they fight for their lives and immense fortune through a series of children's games, asking Northwestern students, if they enjoyed the show and why Weinberg freshman, Kira Embler described how the show managed to pull her in. I did enjoy squid game. I thought it was a very entertaining show, although somewhat disturbing. Um, I liked the commentary it made in, on sort of society and the income inequality and capitalism and whatnot. And yeah, I was entertained throughout the entire show. On the other hand, McCormick freshman, Rebecca Duckett implied that squid game had a more mystifying grasp on her listing. Different reasons for keeping up with the show.
Speaker 19 00:15:07 I did like squid game. I mean, I did binge watch it all in two days. Um, I don't quite know why I liked it. It was just entertaining. I kind of started watching it only because everybody was talking about it and I wanted to know what they were talking about, but watching the show, it was kind of, it was kind of like, you know, like a 180 degree, you know, was not expecting it because I did not know what it was about before I started watching it.
Speaker 18 00:15:38 It seems as though many people were attracted to squid game, not only because of its unique concept, but its cinematography as well, viewers noticed how many scenes were framed to look like famous art pieces, such as the screen by Edward MUN when asked about her favorite aspects of the show, McCormick freshman, Ellie Lynn pointed out the unique appeal of the references hidden in squid games. Visuals. I think the references in it and the general like setup of each game they played, it was very satisfy, like pleasing to see, especially and forget what reference it is. But the art reference to the stairways, it's just, it's just like cool to watch. Like the producers did a very good job. Docket expressed a similar interest in the show's visual direction, noting the interesting choice in color palette.
Speaker 19 00:16:33 Oh, and then another thing is the, um, the bright colors and childlike imagery used in the, in the, uh, show versus the really dark and brutal and kind of violent, um, imagery against that scene.
Speaker 18 00:16:52 The show touches not a variety of themes, making commentary on the pitfalls of capitalism while taking its audience through an emotional action packed plot, which Ambler pointed out seems to be contributing to its great success. I think it just appeals to a lot of people with different interests. So some people really like the action. Um, other people really like this sort of personal story, part of it, other people like the political commentary, um, you know, I think it just appeals to a wide group. Duckett also offered several more possible explanations for why the show became so popular.
Speaker 19 00:17:28 I feel like it got popular because like partially because everybody else was watching it kind of, you know, like my reason for watching it is just so I could know what people were talking about. But I think another reason is like the concept. Not a lot of, I mean, I, I don't feel like I've watched a lot of shows like it. And then another reason I think is kind of like culturally, I feel like a lot of people really like, you know, it's not like quite like a K drama or K-pop or anything, but I think a lot of people have some sort of fascination with Korean culture.
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Speaker 1 00:18:45 Whether you're scrolling through your Instagram feed or talking to your friends in main library, procrastination is common across campus con area reports on what procrastination means to Northwestern students.
Speaker 21 00:19:03 Those sounds were the murmuring voices of students in the course study space at Northwestern's main library. When I visited and recorded that audio on Sunday afternoon, I notice that while many students were engrossed in their work, others were doing something probably quite familiar to most listeners procrastinating.
Speaker 22 00:19:24 What comes to mind when I say the word procrastination, I guess, putting off work that you have it to like last minute, I guess so not doing work ahead of time or like on top of things
Speaker 21 00:19:37 That description of procrastination was delivered by Christian a first year social policy and economics major. I spoke to and a few other students for this segment as someone who tends to procrastinate on work side note that includes this radio segment. I'm so glad my editors dunno how close to airtime I finished. I found these conversations informative and helpful and hope others will too.
Speaker 22 00:20:02 Yeah. I kinda think of like two, like different like types of procrastination in a way, one of them is like sitting at a desk. Like you have an assignment in front of you and you're checking your phone or you're doing anything else, but type of what's in front of you. And the other type is, or you're not sitting at your desk or you don't even wanna look at it right now where you're going out, you're doing something else. You're not even, you don't even have the idea of committing to the work
Speaker 21 00:20:26 That was Avery Schwartz. A second year, computer science major a consensus among the students I talked to seemed to be that generally procrastination manifests in either of the two ways outlined by Schwartz. Interestingly, the students I spoke with you the second way to procrastinate, doing something completely different from coursework, as opposed to aimlessly Whitling away, the time in a more positive light first year biology major role in show express this viewpoint. Sometimes I feel like you just need like brain break. Cause if you keep going, just kind burn yourself out and a kind of mini burnout. But so I think that's a positive, like you can get a little brain break or maybe you can have a fun bonding time with your friends, but then obviously the negatives are you're pushing off your work and gonna make it more difficult for yourself.
Speaker 1 00:21:18 The idea that so called procrastination can be productive is an empowering one. Still Astro mentioned. There is a fine line to walk between fulfill itself in other areas and just not getting coursework done shorts for one goes through a weekly, give and take between completing his coursework and doing other things. Okay.
Speaker 22 00:21:37 This is the group of stuff that has to get done before next time. And this has to get this stuff has to get done before next time. And certain things I'll be like, Hey, if this doesn't get done at all, then I just can't go. All.
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Speaker 1 00:23:34 Welcome back to w Nur news. It's 6:24 PM central I'm Zach McRory here's the weather November 1st is upon us and a drop in temperatures has come along with it. Lows of 33 degrees in Evanson tonight, you'll wake up to low forties and sunny skies in the morning high we'll be at 46 tomorrow with partly cloudy skies. And now some general news updates
Speaker 2 00:23:58 Feis. The Los Martos are day of the dead. For those of you who don't speak Spanish, Latinos and Evanson Northshore hosted a celebration at the Gibbs Morrison culture role center today, the event had an alter, a plethora of mayor gold and crafts for kids and the daily Northwestern reported that the event was dedicated to those who have died from COVID 19
Speaker 1 00:24:21 COVID cases at Northwestern dip slightly last week, seeing 44 positive cases compared to 58, the week of four, 6,191 total tests were received. The positivity rate is at 0.6, 5%.
Speaker 2 00:24:35 So Zach, have you ever celebrated the other Los motos?
Speaker 1 00:24:39 Honestly, I have not personally. There was a place in my hometown where we would go to like this little, it was called the spring preserve I'm from Vegas, everybody, by the way. <laugh> um, and so they would do this really cute like party. They would, they it's basically their butterflies everywhere. It was really cool. So yeah.
Speaker 2 00:24:59 Yeah, no, in Miami it was, uh, there was usually celebrations because there is a Mexican population in Miami that the smart is really big for the Mexican community, but really in my house, uh, it was never celebrated, but it's been very cool talking to a lot of Latinos here at Northwestern who love the holiday plus the food everywhere.
Speaker 1 00:25:18 Right? Oh my God. The food during the, the Los Martos is it's incredible. Like <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:25:25 Yeah, it is except it's always after Halloween. So it's well, one celebration after the other,
Speaker 1 00:25:30 Listen, this just more reason to have candy <laugh> there, there
Speaker 2 00:25:34 Is no reason. That's
Speaker 1 00:25:35 Reason not to have candy,
Speaker 2 00:25:36 I guess that's true. And that's all for w N R news at 6:00 PM for more news updates and reports. Follow us on Twitter at w N R news. You can listen to these and other stories of the day on our Spotify, Google podcast, and SoundCloud check us out too on our brand new website, w nur.news
Speaker 1 00:25:56 On behalf of our producer, Maria Jima reporters, Izzy pad K Caio, and all of us here at w N U R news. I'm Zach McRory
Speaker 2 00:26:05 And I'm Ali Bianco.
Speaker 1 00:26:07 Thank you so much for joining us, pet us next time on Wednesday, November. Good.
